Varför skulle Sauron bara upptäcka One Ring om någon hade det? [duplicera]

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Som det har noterats i många fall sökte Sauron En ring och det har varit subtilt föreslog att < em> ring själv försökte komma tillbaka till Sauron. Det var därför det övergav Gollum efter alla dessa århundraden.
Det vet också att Sauron investerade stora mängder av sin kraft i ringen.

Så varför kunde han inte upptäcka det om ingen hade på sig det?

Saruman discovers that Sauron's servants are searching the Anduin near Gladden Fields, and that Sauron therefore has learned of Isildur's end. He is alarmed, but says nothing to the Council.
The Return of the King, LoTR Appendix B, The Tale of Years: The Third Age

Också:

Sauron intended it to be the most powerful of all Rings, able to rule and control those who wore the others. Since the other Rings were themselves powerful, Sauron was obliged to place much of his own power into the One to achieve his purpose.
The Silmarillion, "Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age", p. 287–288

    
uppsättning Athena Widget 14.12.2015 01:23

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Det finns ingen anledning att tro att Sauron kunde upptäcka ringen eller när någon använde ringen, utom under exceptionella omständigheter:

En gång nästan , på Hill of Seeing, som var en speciell plats - med tanke på att Frodo kunde se en otrolig mängd platser och händelser:

Then at last his gaze was held: wall upon wall, battlement upon battlement, black, immeasurably strong, mountain of iron, gate of steel, tower of adamant, he saw it: Barad-dûr, Fortress of Sauron. All hope left him.

And suddenly he felt the Eye. There was an eye in the Dark Tower that did not sleep. He knew that it had become aware of his gaze. A fierce eager will was there. It leaped towards him; almost like a finger he felt it, searching for him. Very soon it would nail him down, know just exactly where he was. Amon Lhaw it touched. It glanced upon Tol Brandir - he threw himself from the seat, crouching, covering his head with his grey hood.

Barad-dur var ganska långt bort *, för att inte tala om bakom en bergskedja. Frodo hade viss grad av övernaturlig syn på Hill of Seeing. Det är en "magisk" känsla att för att se allt måste Frodo i viss mån göra sig synlig, särskilt för Palantir-wielders som Sauron.

Den enda andra förekomsten var detta:

And far away, as Frodo put on the Ring and claimed it for his own, even in Sammath Naur the very heart of his realm, the Power in Barad-dûr was shaken, and the Tower trembled from its foundations to its proud and bitter crown. The Dark Lord was suddenly aware of him, and his Eye piercing all shadows looked across the plain to the door that he had made; and the magnitude of his own folly was revealed to him in a blinding flash, and all the devices of his enemies were at last laid bare. Then his wrath blazed in consuming flame, but his fear rose like a vast black smoke to choke him. For he knew his deadly peril and the thread upon which his doom now hung.

Frodo ställde inte bara Ringet på, han hävdade det som sin egen med full kunskap om Ringens makt och vad det var och om konsekvenserna i "hjärtat av hans rike" , där ringen själv var smidd. Detta är tydligt en magiskt signifikant händelse på en magiskt betydande plats.

Det finns ingen anledning att tro det på annat håll och under normala omständigheter att Sauron kunde upptäcka människor som bär ringen. Om det var möjligt skulle Gandalf och Aragorns uppfattning ha varit ett enormt misslyckande, för det berodde på Sauron att tro att Aragorn hade och varande den One Ring.

‘As Aragorn has begun, so we must go on. We must push Sauron to his last throw. We must call out his hidden strength, so that he shall empty his land. We must march out to meet him at once. We must make ourselves the bait, though his jaws should close on us. He will take that bait, in hope and in greed, for he will think that in such rashness he sees the pride of the new Ringlord: and he will say: “So! he pushes out his neck too soon and too far. Let him come on, and behold I will have him in a trap from which he cannot escape. There I will crush him, and what he has taken in his insolence shall be mine again for ever.”

Sam är verkligen ingen expert, men han tror att han bara är i fara som bär ringen inuti Mordor .

‘And anyway all these notions are only a trick,’ he said to himself. ‘He'd spot me and cow me, before I could so much as shout out. He'd spot me, pretty quick, if I put the Ring on now, in Mordor.

Det är uppenbart att Sauron var helt okunnig om Sams Ring-användning i Mordors utkanten:

Now the flicker of approaching torches and the clink of steel ahead was very near. In a minute they would reach the top and be on him. He had taken too long in making up his mind, and now it was no good. How could he escape, or save himself, or save the Ring? The Ring. He was not aware of any thought or decision. He simply found himself drawing out the chain and taking the Ring in his hand. The head of the ore-company appeared in the Cleft right before him. Then he put it on.

The world changed, and a single moment of time was filled with an hour of thought. At once he was aware that hearing was sharpened while sight was dimmed, but otherwise than in Shelob's lair. All things about him now were not dark but vague; while he himself was there in a grey hazy world, alone, like a small black solid rock, and the Ring, weighing down his left hand, was like an orb of hot gold. He did not feel invisible at all, but horribly and uniquely visible; and he knew that somewhere an Eye was searching for him.

Faren att använda Ringen före deras ankomst till Mordor var inte att Sauron skulle upptäcka dem (han skulle så småningom upptäcka en öppen användning, om man säger att en person plötsligt dök upp som leder alla andra i en enad front med absolut undergivna arméer) , men att försöka använda den verkliga kraften i ringen skulle bryta Frodo.

'Only thrice have you set the Ring upon your finger since you knew what you possessed. Do no try! It would destroy you. Did not Gandalf tell you the rings give power according to the measure of their possessor? Before you could use that power you would need to become far stronger, and train your will to the domination of others.'

Observera dock att i slutet var Frodo ganska möjligt med hjälp av Ringets kraft för att dominera andras vilja - nämligen Gollum.

Sauron satte sig in i Ring - sant. Men därmed utmärkte han den kraften. Det var bunden med honom, men inte en del av honom som en lem som han visste var den var vid alltid. Det var priset Sauron betalade för att skapa Ring.

(alla citat från LotR)

(* Det verkar som om Sam och Frodo reste ungefär 500 mil från Amon Hen till Sammath Naur, men jag är inte säker på hur avståndet är som kråken flyger.)

    
svaret ges 14.12.2015 02:12