Did Snapes stavbyter byter trohet när Harry, Ron och Hermione slog honom ut?

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Skulle Snape slinga ändra troskap när Harry, Ron, Hermione knackade honom omedvetet med deras samtidiga Expelliarmus?

Prisoner of Azhaban chapter The servant of Lord Voldemort

“SILENCE! I WILL NOT BE SPOKEN TO LIKE THAT!” Snape shrieked, looking madder than ever. “Like father, like son, Potter! I have just saved your neck; you should be thanking me on bended knee! You would have been well served if he’d killed you! You’d have died like your father, too arrogant to believe you might be mistaken in Black — now get out of the way, or I will make you. GET OUT OF THE WAY, POTTER!”

Harry made up his mind in a split second. Before Snape could take even one step toward him, he had raised his wand.

“Expelliarmus!” he yelled — except that his wasn’t the only voice that shouted. There was a blast that made the door rattle on its hinges; Snape was lifted off his feet and slammed into the wall, then slid down it to the floor, a trickle of blood oozing from under his hair. He had been knocked out.

Harry looked around. Both Ron and Hermione had tried to disarm Snape at exactly the same moment. Snape’s wand soared in a high arc and landed on the bed next to Crookshanks.

Kommer Snape slinga (eller någon trollstav) ändra trohet om två eller flera trollkarlar avväpnar sin herre, eller finns det någon annan vandringsregel på jobbet? Valet väljer två eller tre nya mästare eller bara en mästare?

    
uppsättning tls 13.01.2015 15:13

2 svar

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Wand lojalitet beror på muren material. (Kasta några citat från Rowling längst ner i posten).

Vi vet inte vad Snape slinga är gjord av, men det kan eller kanske inte ha ändrat lojalitet, men vi kan anta på en viss nivå baserat på citaten från Rowling att den hade tagit åtminstone en liten trohet till var och en av "Disarmers" (Göra lite språng här baserat på idén att Snape personlighet inte skulle ha lånat honom att vara parat med en Unicorn hårkärna eller Phoenix fjäderkärna).

Oavsett om det gjorde, fick Harry, Ron och / eller Hermione inte behålla eller använda det (så vi kan inte säga hur bra det skulle ha fungerat för dem) och även om det är absolut lojalitet, kan det ha förändrats det skulle fortfarande ha en trohet till Snape, skulle därför fortfarande fungera för honom.

Citat från intervju med JK Rowling hittade HÄR angående lojalitet i lojalitet:

MA: But wand lore. Can you go into-- in a more detailed fashion, the way that the wands change hands and how different the Elder Wand is because fans are confused.

JKR: I am going to put up another update on my website about this, and I have one half-written. Essentially, I see wands as being quasi-sentient, you know? I think they awaken to a kind of-- They're not exactly animate but they're close to it. As close to it as you can get in an object because they carry so much magic. So that's really the key point about a wand. Now, the reactions will vary from wand to wand. The Elder Wand is simply the most dispassionate and ruthless of wands in that it will only take into consideration strength. So one would expect a certain amount of loyalty from one's wand. So even if you were disarmed while carrying it, even if you lost a fight while carrying it, it has developed an affinity with you that it will not give up easily. If, however, a wand is won, properly won in an adult duel, then a wand may switch allegiance, and it will certainly work better even if it hasn't fully switched allegiance for the person who won it. So that of course is what happens when Harry takes Draco's wand from him, and that's what happens when-- But you know what I mean. Oh, yeah, Ron. The blackthorn wand from the snatcher. So that would be sort of rough and ready, common, or garden, a wand favoring the person who had the skill to take it. It would favor them. However, the Elder Wand knows no loyalty except to strength. So it's completely unsentimental. It will only go where the power is. So if you win, then you've won the wand. So you don't need to kill with it. But, as is pointed out in the books, not least by Dumbledore because it is a wand of such immense power, almost inevitably, it attracts wizards who are prepared to kill and who will kill. And also it attracts wizards like Voldemort who confuse being prepared to murder with strength.

Några citat från Rowling om vissa väggkärnor, hittade HÄR

  • The Elder Wand (Threstal hair core) is extremely fickle and responds readily to power, with zero loyalty to its previous owner. The allegiance of this wand is won very easily using brute force, but never peacefully (For instance, Snape killing Dumbledore with Dumbledore's consent wouldn't make Snape the master of the Wand.)

  • Unicorn hair wands are very loyal; in fact they are the most faithful and don't care much about skill or power. They generally will always be attached to its original owner, regardless of current allegiance.

  • Phoenix feather wands are also very loyal because they are very picky when choosing their first owner. It can be quite difficult to win their allegiance because of this.

  • Dragon heartstrings wands are more similar to the Elder Wand; they appreciate power, so it is easier to win their allegiance from their previous owner.

svaret ges 13.01.2015 16:48
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Äldste Wand är unikt i hur svagt det är. Det finns otaliga gånger att vi ser häxor och trollkarlar i böckerna som "besegras" av andra, och de har inga problem att använda sina wands senare (eller i vissa fall något mer problem än vad de redan hade [Neville efter Hermione Full Body-Bind i SS]). Lockhart och Snape duellerar varandra, och barnen i Dueling Club avväpnar varandra överallt.

Som Ollivander säger, är det mer trollen som väljer trollkarlen än omvänden. De flesta wands, som de flesta, kommer att göra ett val och brukar hålla fast vid det för det mesta. Den väljer den personen av en anledning. Den äldre murmen verkar dock vara mycket kraftig hungrig. Det är en oerhört kraftfull troll till att börja med, och det är ute efter den mest kraftfulla trollkarlen som den kan knyta sig till. Det innebär att så fort ägaren besegras ser den sin svaghet och fäster sig till segern. Det här är inte hur varje trollstav fungerar men; Det är atypiskt beteende från en trollstav av atypisk kraft och konstruktion.

    
svaret ges 13.01.2015 15:33