Vad menade Tywin när han sa detta till Jaime om att behöva all hjälp han kan få?

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I S04E01 har vi en dialog mellan Jaime Lannister och hans pappa. Tywin beställer Jaime att återvända till Casterly Rock och styra, men han vägrar. Hans far accepterar det och berättar att han behåller det nya Valyrian-stålsvärdet han just hade skapat för sin son, säger

A one-handed man with no family needs all the help he can get.

Varför sa han det? Ansåg han att eftersom hans son vägrade att lyda honom, kommer han inte längre att hjälpa honom eller det eftersom han bestämde sig för att stanna kvar i Kingsguard, han kommer inte att bli arvtagare utan att i förlängning inte vara en del av familjen?

    
uppsättning Thomas 07.09.2017 23:17

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Tywin förnekade faktiskt Jaime där. Han ville att Jaime skulle göra sin plikt till sin familj, Jaime vägrade. Tywin noterade att han har försökt i fyrtio år att lära honom och om Jaime inte har lärt sig nu, vill han aldrig. Kingsguard lämnar bara sina påståenden, inte deras efternamn som Maesters gör. Hans löften gör honom inte någon mindre del av House Lannister. Det är hans insisterande på att hans plikt som KG kommer över sin plikt som en Lannister som gjorde Tywin avsked han.

Tywin: You can't serve in the Kingsguard with one hand.

Jaime: Where's that written? I can and I will. The Kingsguard oath is for life.

Tywin: The war is over. The king is safe.

Jaime: The king is never safe. How many people in this city alone would love to see his head on a pike?

Tywin: Other knights protected the king while you were a prisoner. They will continue to do so when you go home.

Jaime: Home?

Tywin: You'll return to Casterly Rock and rule in my stead.

Jaime: You are the Lord of Casterly Rock.

Tywin: I am the King's Hand. My place is here. I don't expect to see the Rock again before I die.

Jaime: You know what they call me? Kingslayer. Oathbreaker. Man without honor. Now you want me to break another sacred vow.

Tywin: You won't be breaking anything. There is a precedent to relieve a Kingsguard of his duties. The king will exercise that prerogative.

Jaime: No.

Tywin: No?

Jaime: No.

Tywin: I don't believe I asked you a question.

Jaime: There's my answer.

Tywin: If you think your bloody honor comes before--

Jaime: My bloody honor is beyond repair, but my answer is still no. I don't want Casterly Rock. I don't want a wife. I don't want children.

Tywin: What do you want?

Jaime: Supper would be nice.

Tywin: For 40 years I've tried to teach you. If you haven't learned by now, you never will. Go. If serving as a glorified bodyguard is the sum of your ambition, go serve.

Jaime: I suppose you want the sword back.

Tywin: Keep it. A one-handed man with no family needs all the help he can get.
Season 4 - Two Swords

Jaime tog antydan och sa så mycket till Cersei. Cersei var emellertid oenig.

Cersei: And now I'm marrying my eldest son to a wicked little bitch from Highgarden while I'm supposed to marry her brother, a renowned pillow biter.

Jaime: So Father disowned me today.

Cersei: He can't disown you. You're all he's got.
Season 4 - Two Swords

Visad Cersei hade rätt. Tywin accepterade Jaimes erbjudande att bli arving till Casterly Rock om han lät Tyrion leva efteråt.

böcker

Så här hände det i böckerna, det var tydligare att Tywin hade förkunnat Jaime efter att han vägrade göra service för sitt hus och när Tywin sa att han var hans son, sa Jaime att han var en riddare av Kingsguard. Så man kan säga, det var Jaime som brände broarna.

“You cannot serve in the Kingsguard without a sword hand -”

“I can,” he interrupted. “And I will. There’s precedent. I’ll look in the White Book and find it, if you like. Crippled or whole, a knight of the Kingsguard serves for life.”

“Cersei ended that when she replaced Ser Barristan on grounds of age. A suitable gift to the Faith will persuade the High Septon to release you from your vows. Your sister was foolish to dismiss Selmy, admittedly, but now that she has opened the gates -”

“- someone needs to close them again.” Jaime stood. “I am tired of having highborn women kicking pails of shit at me, Father. No one ever asked me if I wanted to be Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, but it seems I am. I have a duty -”

“You do.” Lord Tywin rose as well. “A duty to House Lannister. You are the heir to Casterly Rock. That is where you should be. Tommen should accompany you, as your ward and squire. The Rock is where he’ll learn to be a Lannister, and I want him away from his mother. I mean to find a new husband for Cersei. Oberyn Martell perhaps, once I convince Lord Tyrell that the match does not threaten Highgarden. And it is past time you were wed. The Tyrells are now insisting that Margaery be wed to Tommen, but if I were to offer you instead -”

“NO!” Jaime had heard all that he could stand. No, more than he could stand. He was sick of it, sick of lords and lies, sick of his father, his sister, sick of the whole bloody business. “No. No. No. No. No. How many times must I say no before you’ll hear it? Oberyn Martell? The man’s infamous, and not just for poisoning his sword. He has more bastards than Robert, and beds with boys as well. And if you think for one misbegotten moment that I would wed Joffrey’s widow...”

“Lord Tyrell swears the girl’s still maiden.”

“She can die a maiden as far as I’m concerned. I don’t want her, and I don’t want your Rock!”

“You are my son -”

“I am a knight of the Kingsguard. The Lord Commander of the Kingsguard! And that’s all I mean to be!”

Firelight gleamed golden in the stiff whiskers that framed Lord Tywin’s face. A vein pulsed in his neck, but he did not speak. And did not speak. And did not speak.

The strained silence went on until it was more than Jaime could endure.

“Father...” he began.

“You are not my son.” Lord Tywin turned his face away. “You say you are the Lord Commander of the Kingsguard, and only that. Very well, ser. Go do your duty.”
ASOS - Jaime VIII

    
svaret ges 08.09.2017 08:41