Dark Tower referenser i andra verk av Stephen King eller vice versa

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Jag började nyligen läsa om Dark Tower-sagan (precis avslutad del IV: Wizard and Glass, förmodligen min favoritdel i serien) och märkte några länkar till Stephen Kings andra arbeten. Till exempel, i Trollkarl och Glas finner Ka-Tet en anteckning av en viss Abigail på vindrutan på en bil i Kansas. Även om många år har gått sedan jag läste den boken, tror jag att det här är en nod till The Stand.

Nu finns det många anslutningar som detta? Och då menar jag rätt anslutningar och inte bara saker så här:

19: The number nineteen is a magical number in the Dark Tower novels. In Blockade Billy, it is Billy’s shirt number.

Eftersom det inte är referenser som inte ger stor inverkan i kungens arbete. Det spelar ingen roll förresten om Dark Tower hänvisar till andra böcker eller om andra böcker refererar till Dark Tower. Jag är intresserad på båda hållen.

Notera : Eftersom jag tänker på att läsa de refererade arbetena i framtiden skulle jag uppskatta det om svaren bara visar titlarna på böckerna. Ytterligare förklaring är välkommen naturligtvis men använd spoiler tags.

    
uppsättning Noosrep 13.06.2016 16:29

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Stephen King diskuterade nyligen detta ämne med Underhållning Weekly .

Han listar följande anslutningar, men vissa är tuffa i bästa fall:

The Shining and Doctor Sleep

Psychic powers in The Dark Tower film are referred to as “The Shine,” which means Jake Chambers, the boy at the center of the story, has the same abilities that Danny Torrance had in King’s classic 1977 novel (and the 2013 sequel Doctor Sleep). Is the Shine becoming his catch-all psychic ability? Does that mean the wallflower-turned-prom-queen in Carrie had a malevolent version of The Shine? “I don’t know, man,” King says with a laugh. “It’s like the guy says in House of Cards: ‘You might think so, but I couldn’t possibly comment.’”

Dragen och ögonen på draken

Randall Flagg, the sharp-tongued, charismatic villain from King’s 1979 Americana apocalypse and his 1987 old-school fairy tale, is the same sinister presence Matthew McConaughey plays in The Dark Tower, only operating a different alias – Walter, The Man in Black. “At some point I realized that Randall Flagg and Walter were the same character and once you take this whole idea in mind that Mid-World is connected to our world you say, ‘Well okay, this guy shows up again and again,’” King says. Did he just like seeing this devil again? King shudders: “I never want to see that guy.”

Hjärtor i Atlantis

In the 1999 story collection, Ted Brautigan is a psychic who, like Jake in the movie, is being pursued as a “Breaker,” someone whose power can help collapse the Tower. The 2001 movie dropped the Tower references, and instead had the Anthony Hopkins character being pursued by government agents for clandestine Cold War research. “I wish they had gone more supernatural with that,” King says of the movie. “I thought there was a way to do that without feeding into the whole Dark Tower thing.”

In the film version of The Dark Tower, there’s an older Breaker who is somewhat inspired by Ted Brautigan, although it’s not the same character. Director and co-writer Nikolaj Arcel said he wanted someone who was older than Jake, someone who had been enslaved by the Man in Black for a long time. So there’ll be flashes back to this figure’s younger days – in the way-back era of the 1990s.

"Salems Lot

In this 1975 book, the fallen priest who loses his faith and drinks the blood of a vampire later becomes a key ally of Roland the Gunslinger in the latter Dark Tower books. If there are sequels to the movie, it’s possible he may turn up onscreen. “Father Callahan…” King says wistfully. “I’d love to see him in there. But we’ll have to see how the [first] film does.”

Insomnia

An elderly man who begins having visions after losing the ability to sleep comes to learn about a mystical tower that stands for all the levels of reality – and the agents of the Crimson King who wishes to tear it down. Before this 1994 novel, the Tower saga was separate from King’s other novels. “Insomnia was the first place where I really understood [the links] consciously and I started to work all this stuff in there,” the author says.

Talisman och svart hus

These fantasy epics, co-written with Peter Straub, take place in The Territories, a neighbor to The Dark Tower’s Mid-World. The connection wasn’t made in 1984’s The Talisman, but for the 2001 sequel, King and Straub tied them together explicitly. “It seemed to me almost undeniable, and it did to Peter, too, that if we were talking about another world you could flip into, it would be related to Mid-World,” King says, referencing similar adjacent realms from Game of Thrones. “An analog would be Westeros and Meereen.”

In the midst of our conversation, King drops a bombshell: There’s a third Talisman books in the works. At least, it’s currently germinating in his and Straub’s heads. “Peter and I have started to talk about the third book in the cycle, so you know, we’ll see what happens, whether or not that’s there,” King says. “I think that he’s got some great ideas.”

Det

Later in The Dark Tower books, Roland and his posse meet Dandelo, a creature who feeds on emotion, just like the fiend that manifested itself as Pennywise the Clown. Fans theorize they’re the same kind of monster, but King doesn’t go that far. “I would say that they were probably related just because they both came from my head,” he says. “But it wasn’t a conscious thing to say one was like the other.”

"The Jaunt" (samlad i Skelett Crew)

In The Dark Tower, some portals between worlds are technologically created, so producers of the movie asked King if they should follow the rules established by this 1981 short story. It’s about a mass-transit system that opens time/space portals, but if passengers go through awake they emerge insane on the other side. King’s response: Laughter. “If you’re mind’s going there, go with God,” he says. “I feel like that with most of this stuff.”

För en mer ingående lista över anslutningar kan man titta på Kings egen webbplats , som lägger till ett antal andra mindre anslutningar.

    
svaret ges 16.07.2016 07:43
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Egentligen tenderar de flesta referenserna att gå åt andra hållet. Det är; Dark Tower-serien innehåller många referenser till andra kungsverk, snarare än tvärtom. Kung började se serien för att vara en slags meta-historia som tjänade att väva alla sina historier tillsammans. "Det finns andra världar än dessa", som Jake sa.

Böcker som skrivs samtidigt eller efter Dark Tower-serien innehåller dock ibland några påskägg. Om du vill se en fullständig lista, inklusive större och mindre referenser, kan du titta på det här Wikipedia-sida , men den innehåller stora spoilers, så akta dig. Om du bara vill ha titlarna på böcker som är starkt anslutna, är de här:

  • "Salems Lot
  • Stativet
  • Talisman
  • Misten
  • Det
  • Drakarens ögon
  • Insomnia
  • Rose Madder
  • Desperation
  • Reglerna
  • Väska av ben
  • Hjärtor i Atlantis
  • Black House
  • Allting är Eventual
  • Från en Buick 8
  • Ur
svaret ges 13.06.2016 17:16
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Om vi tar den ursprungliga versionen av den här frågan bokstavligen - det vill säga referenser till The Dark Tower i andra böcker (det vill säga en icke-DT-bok som nämner något från DT, snarare än en DT bok som nämner något från en icke-DT-bok) - listan innehåller följande.

Böcker jag är bekant med:

  • Drakens ögon

Although many of the references in EotD were only later inserted into DT, some elements were always intended to be nods to The Dark Tower. The sorcerer is Flagg, the kingdom is in Roland's world, the two boys who leave to pursue the sorcerer eventually found their way to Gilead, etc.

  • Insomnia

The Crimson King makes his first appearance here; the protagonists see the Tower itself; a child draws pictures of the Tower and Roland.

  • Rose Madder

References to Lud, Ka, Mid-World, etc.

  • Hjärtor i Atlantis

Flagg, Low Men, Breakers, etc

  • Black House

Actually written as a pseudo-Tower book, with references to Breakers, Flagg, the Crimson King, gunslingers, Mid-World, Discordia, etc.

Andra böcker:

Som en allmän regel, om en kungbok är relaterad till Dark Tower universum (som de flesta böckerna är) och skrivits efter mitten av 90-talet kommer det att finnas minst en eller två uttryckliga referenser till DT i boken. Före mitten av 90-talet tenderade referenserna att springa i andra riktningen, vilket Rogers svar förklarar.

    
svaret ges 13.06.2016 21:22
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Jag läste just i Wolves of the Calla ,

Father Callahan says he has thought about using the door (black 13, the door in the cave) to go back to 1963 and see if Lee Harvey Oswald worked alone.  They continue talking about wondering what would happen if the events from that day were changed...  11/22/63 was one of my all time favorite books, so it was an awesome reference to me!

    
svaret ges 16.04.2017 01:24