Var Sam någonsin påverkad av ringen? [duplicera]

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Av Ringbärarna sedan Isildur har vi:

  • Gollum , på vilken ringens inflytande var starkast: det fick honom att morda sin bästa vän nästan så snart de fann den och förvandlade honom till en eländig varelse som endast levde tjäna / äga ringen det förlängde också sin livslängd till flera hundra år

  • Bilbo , som var ytterst motvillig att ge upp ringen till Frodo sin omsorg och alltid önskade att se den igen; Det gjorde det också möjligt för honom att bli den längsta levande hobbiten någonsin

  • Frodo , som kände irrationell motvilja mot var och en av Bilbo och Sam när de försökte "ta" ringen och som slutade hävda det för sig själv än att förstöra det som lovat ; i senare år verkade aldrig sin börda lämna honom

Det lämnar Sam , som bor i ringen för en relativt kort tid, men gjorde det - och till och med hade det - på gränsen till Mordor själv. Den här frågan handlar om frågan om varför Sam var mindre påverkad av det än de andra. Min fråga är i vilken utsträckning han drabbades alls : finns det några bevis på att ringen antingen skadar honom med sitt beroendeframkallande inflytande eller förlänger sin livslängd onaturligt eller någon annan ringsignal?

    
uppsättning Rand al'Thor 17.09.2015 12:47

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Den beroendeframkallande aspekten av ringen

Det är kvar lite tvetydigt, men för mina pengar är svaret ja (fet är min betoning, kursiv är Tolkiens):

'They've taken everything, Sam,' said Frodo. 'Everything I had. Do you understand? Everything!' He cowered on the floor again with bowed head, as his own words brought home to him the fullness of the disaster, and despair overwhelmed him. 'The quest has failed Sam. Even if we get out of here, we can’t escape. Only Elves can escape. Away, away out of Middle-earth, far away over the Sea. If even that is wide enough to keep the Shadow out.'

'No, not everything, Mr. Frodo. And it hasn't failed, not yet. I took it, Mr. Frodo, begging your pardon. And I've kept it safe. It's round my neck now, and a terrible burden it is, too.' Sam fumbled for the Ring and its chain. 'But I suppose you must take it back.' Now it had come to it, Sam felt reluctant to give up the Ring and burden his master with it again.

Return of the King Book VI Chapter 1: "The Tower of Cirith Ungol"

Det är värt att jämföra detta med en mycket tidigare scen mellan Frodo och Bilbo (betona min):

'Have you got it here?' [Bilbo] asked in a whisper. 'I can't help feeling curious, you know, after all I've heard. I should very much like just to peep at it again.'

'Yes, I've got it,' answered Frodo, feeling a strange reluctance. 'It looks just the same as ever it did.'

Fellowship of the Ring Book II Chapter 1: "Many Meetings"

Det finns i princip två sätt att läsa Sams motvilja:

  • Ringets besittande karaktär arbetar med att hålla fast vid honom
  • Sam är bara legitimt oroad över Frodo och vill inte att han ska lida
  • Det finns definitivt sanning i den andra, men för mina pengar är det också precis den slags känslan som skulle vridas av en önskan att behålla ringen.

    Men personligen misstänker jag att Tolkien inte håller med mig. Vi ser att Sam blir uttryckligen frestad av Ringen, och han avvisar frestelsen fullständigt (betonar min):

    Only too clearly Sam saw how hopeless it would be for him to creep down under those many-eyed walls and pass the watchful gate. And even if he did so, he could not go far on the guarded road beyond: not even the black shadows, lying deep where the red glow could not reach, would shield him long from the night-eyed orcs. But desperate as that road might be, his task was now far worse: not to avoid the gate and escape, but to enter it, alone.

    His thought turned to the Ring, but there was no comfort there, only dread and danger. No sooner had he come in sight of Mount Doom, burning far away, than he was aware of a change in his burden. As it drew near the great furnaces where, in the deeps of time, it had been shaped and forged, the Ring’s power grew, and it became more fell, untameable save by some mighty will. As Sam stood there, even though the Ring was not on him but hanging by its chain about his neck, he felt himself enlarged, as if he were robed in a huge distorted shadow of himself, a vast and ominous threat halted upon the walls of Mordor. He felt that he had from now on only two choices: to forbear the Ring, though it would torment him; or to claim it, and challenge the Power that sat in its dark hold beyond the valley of shadows. Already the Ring tempted him, gnawing at his will and reason. Wild fantasies arose in his mind; and he saw Samwise the Strong, Hero of the Age, striding with a flaming sword across the darkened land, and armies flocking to his call as he marched to the overthrow of Barad-dûr. And then all the clouds rolled away, and the white sun shone, and at his command the vale of Gorgoroth became a garden of flowers and trees and brought forth fruit. He had only to put on the Ring and claim it for his own, and all this could be.

    In that hour of trial it was the love of his master that helped most to hold him firm; but also deep down in him lived still unconquered his plain hobbit-sense: he knew in the core of his heart that he was not large enough to bear such a burden, even if such visions were not a mere cheat to betray him. The one small garden of a free gardener was all his need and due, not a garden swollen to a realm; his own hands to use, not the hands of others to command.

    Return of the King Book VI Chapter 1: "The Tower of Cirith Ungol"

    Jag har inte hittat något i Middle Earths historia för att klargöra Tolkiens betydelse; alla hans utkast glans över Ringets faktiska uppgivande, och Christopher Tolkien lämnade inga anteckningar om ämnet. I slutändan finns det tillräckligt med utrymme för att gå på något sätt.

    Enforced longevity

    Det är svårt att säga definitivt om ringen hade någon effekt på Sams livstid. Eftersom Tolkien aldrig följde Hobbitsna över havet, känner vi inte exakt hur länge han levde, men vi vet hur länge han var i Middle Earth: 102 år. Bilaga B berättar för oss att Sam var 96 i S.R. 1476:

    1469 Master Samwise becomes Mayor for the seventh and last time, being in 1476, at the end of his office, ninety-six years old.

    Return of the King Appendix B: "The Tale of Years" (iii) Later Events Concerning the Members of the Fellowship of the Ring

    Och han lämnade havet i S.R. 1482:

    1482 Death of Mistress Rose, wife of Master Samwise, on Mid-year's Day. On September 22 Master Samwise rides out from Bag End. He comes to the Tower Hills, and is last seen by Elanor, to whom he gives the Red Book afterwards kept by the Fairbairns. Among them the tradition is handed down from Elanor that Samwise passed the Towers, and went to the Grey Havens. and passed over Sea, last of the Ring-bearers.

    Return of the King Appendix B: "The Tale of Years" (iii) Later Events Concerning the Members of the Fellowship of the Ring

    Så, 102 år. Det är svårt att säga hur ovanligt denna ålder skulle vara för en hobbit; 111 sägs vara en "respektabel" ålder:

    Twelve more years passed. Each year the Bagginses had given very lively combined birthday-parties at Bag End; but now it was understood that something quite exceptional was being planned for that autumn. Bilbo was going to be eleventy-one, 111, a rather curious number and a very respectable age for a hobbit (the Old Took himself had only reached 130); and Frodo was going to be thirty-three, 33) an important number: the date of his 'coming of age'.

    Fellowship of the Ring Book I Chapter 1: "A Long-Expected Party"

    Den finländare som kör LotrProject.com beräknade genomsnittlig förväntad livslängd för en hobbit som 96,9 , och han anser detta ett ganska tillförlitligt antal:

    The Hobbit lifespan of 96.8 years is most likely a very good estimation. There is a relatively large and well-documented sample size and most of them died from natural causes.

    För allt vad det är värt, hade Merry en liknande livstid; Bilaga C, släktträdet, ger sitt födelseår som S.R. 1382. Även om det exakta året för hans död inte registreras, noterar Bilaga B att han definitivt lever i S.R. 1484 (när han är 102 år) och föreslår att han dog några år efter:

    1484 In the spring of the year a message came from Rohan to Buckland that King Éomer wished to see Master Holdwine [the name given to Merry by the Rohirrim] again. Meriadoc was then old (102) but still hale. He took counsel with his friend the Thain [Pippin], and soon after they handed over their goods and offices to their sons and rode away over the Sarn Ford, and they were not seen again in the Shire. It was heard after that Master Meriadoc came to Edoras and was with King Éomer before he died in that autumn. Then he and Thain Peregrin went to Gondor and passed what short years were left to them in that realm, until they died and were laid in Rath Dínen among the great of Gondor.

    Return of the King Appendix B "The Tale of Years" Later Events Concerning the Members of the Fellowship of the Ring

    Återigen kan det gå på något sätt.

        
    svaret ges 17.09.2015 13:20