Eidolon Swallow Whole Evolution

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Jag jobbar för närvarande med att bygga en nivå 20 Summoner NPC. Han har en quadruped eidolon grundat kring idén om en Cerberus-liknande trehöjdbjörn.

Vid nuvarande byggnad har eidolon 36 utvecklingspunkter tillgängliga där jag har använt dem

(evolution / tider tagna / evolutionskostnad)

  • Huvud / 2x / 4EP
  • Bite / 2x / 2EP
  • Bite 1.5 / 3x / 3ep
  • Klor / 1x / 1EP
  • Förbättrad skada / 1x / 1ep (bite)
  • Pounce / 1x / 1EP
  • Rend / 1x / 2EP
  • Svälj hela / 1x / 3ep
  • Andningsvapen / 1x / 4ep (kegelsyra)
  • Stor / 1x / 4EP
  • Huge / 1x / 6EP
  • Grab / 1x / 2EP
  • Nå / 1x / 1ep (bit)
  • Poison / 1x / 2ep (bite)
  • De prestationer jag gav honom är som följer

  • Cleave
  • Bekämpa reflexer
  • Hammer the Gap
  • Skrämmande förmåga
  • Lunge
  • Power Attack
  • Snatch
  • Skrämmande bett
  • Som jag förstår att använda svälja hela måste jag ta tag i Swallow Whole

    Grab (Ex)

    Source: PRG: APG

    An eidolon becomes adept at grappling foes, gaining the grab ability. Pick bite, claw, pincers, slam, tail slap, or tentacle attacks. Whenever the eidolon makes a successful attack of the selected type, it can attempt a free combat maneuver check. If successful, the eidolon grapples the target. This ability only works on creatures of a size one category smaller than the eidolon or smaller. Eidolons with this evolution receive a +4 bonus on CMB checks made to grapple.

    Swallow Whole (Ex)

    Source: PRG: APG

    An eidolon gains the swallow whole ability, giving it the ability to consume its foes. If the eidolon begins its turn with a creature grappled using its bite attack (see the grab evolution), it can attempt a combat maneuver check to swallow the creature. The creature can be up to one size category smaller than the eidolon. Swallowed creatures take damage equal to the eidolon’s bite damage each round plus 1d6 points of bludgeoning damage. A swallowed creature keeps the grappled condition but can attempt to cut its way free with a light slashing or piercing weapon. The amount of damage needed to cut free is equal to 1/10 the eidolon’s total hit points. The eidolon’s AC against these attacks is equal to 10 + 1/2 its natural armor bonus. If a swallowed creature cuts its way out, the eidolon loses this ability until it heals this damage. Alternatively, the swallowed creature can attempt to escape the grapple as normal. Success indicates that it has returned to the eidolon’s mouth, where it can attempt to escape or be swallowed again. The eidolon must possess the grab evolution, tied to a bite attack, to take this evolution. The summoner must be at least 9th level before selecting this evolution.

    Men när jag tittar på allt jag är nyfiken om Snatch förnekar behovet av att ta tag i, som i sin tur frigörs, pekar två evolutionspunkter på något annat som Trample eller Wings?

    Snatch

    Pathfinder RPG Bestiary

    This creature can grab other creatures with ease.

    Prerequisite: Size Huge or larger.

    Benefits: The creature can start a grapple when it hits with a claw or bite attack, as though it had the grab ability. If it grapples a creature three or more sizes smaller, it squeezes each round for automatic bite or claw damage with a successful grapple check. A snatched opponent held in the creature’s mouth is not allowed a Reflex save against the creature’s breath weapon, if it has one.

    The creature can drop a creature it has snatched as a free action or use a standard action to fling it aside. A flung creature travels 1d6 × 10 feet, and takes 1d6 points of damage per 10 feet traveled. If the creature flings a snatched opponent while flying, the opponent takes this amount or falling damage, whichever is greater.

        
    uppsättning gareth the elf 06.04.2017 16:16

    1 svar

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    Nej, Snatch negerar inte behovet av Grab evolutionen.

    Det finns tre komponenter på spel här.

  • Den funktionella förmågan att automatiskt starta ett grepp på träff
  • "Hämta" speciell attack , som ger det kapacitet
  • Grab evolutionen, som ger grepp speciell attack
  • Så # 3 ger dig # 2 och # 2 ger dig # 1.

    Från Snatch feat ( betona min ):

    The creature can start a grapple when it hits with a claw or bite attack, as though it had the grab ability.

    Så Snatch beviljar # 1 från listan ovan, men inte # 2 eller # 3.

    Från beskrivningen av Swallow Whole Evolution ( betona min ):

    ... The eidolon must possess the grab evolution, tied to a bite attack, to take this evolution. ...

    Så Swallow Whole evolution kräver # 3 som förutsättning.

    Snatch låter dig ta tag utan att ta tag i speciell attack . Men Swallow Whole evolutionen kräver uttryckligen Grab evolutionen , så du kan inte använda Snatch för att kvalificera dig för Swallow Whole.

        
    svaret ges 06.04.2017 16:23