Före Joffrey födelse var Stannis verkligen Roberts arvinge.
Joffreys födelse ändrade ändå ledningsföljden, men Robert återkallade aldrig titeln från Stannis.
Vidare har Stannis aldrig stylats som Prince of Dragonstone, trots att han tekniskt höll samma position. Bilagan till AGOT-stilar Stannis som Lord of Dragonstone:
his brothers:
- STANNIS BARATHEON, Lord of Dragonstone,
- his wife, LADY SELYSE of House Florent,
- their daughter, SHIREEN, a girl of nine,
- RENLY BARATHEON, Lord of Storm's End,
Observera att både Renly och Stannis är stylade som herrar. Targaryen Princes som höll landar var alltid "Prince of X", t.ex. Prins Baelor Breakspear var Prince of Dragonstone medan hans yngre bror Prince Maekar var prins av Summerhall.
George sa aldrig att Stannis var prinsen av Dragonstone. George sade bara att han bekräftades i arvtagarens skick och blev gjord av Lord of the Dragonstone.
Du kanske också vill notera att bara födelse av en arving som är uppenbar för en kung gör inte dem automatiskt prins eller prinsessan av Dragonstone. Det finns en särskild ceremoni för det. Exempel vi har är Rhaenyra Targaryen trots att hon föddes innan hennes far arvade tronen.
In 105 AC, her mother finally delivered the son that the king and queen had both longed for, but the queen died in childbirth, and the boy—named Baelon—only survived her by a day. By this time, Viserys I was heartily sick of being hectored over the succession, and disregarding the precedents of 92 AC and the Great Council of 101 AC, he officially declared that Rhaenyra was Princess of Dragonstone and his heir. A grand ceremony was arranged in which hundreds of lords knelt to do homage to the princess while she sat at her father's feet. Prince Daemon was not among them.
TWOIAF-Targaryen Kings: Viserys I
Dessutom har inte alla Crown Princes titeln PoDS. Aenys Targaryen höll aldrig titeln men var fortfarande hans pappas arvinge. Joffreys fall liknar Aenys ". Begreppet Prince of Dragonstone framkom på grund av reserven, Maegor Targaryen. Aenys brukade vara med sin far vid Red Keep medan den yngre prinsen stannade hos sin mor vid Dragonstone och blev känd som Prince of Dragonstone. Maegor var inte Aegon Jag är arving, Aenys var.
The half brothers were never close. Prime Aenys was the heir apparent, and King Aegon kept him close by his side. As the king moved about the realm from castle to castle, so did the prince. Prince Maegor remained with his mother, sitting by her side when she held court. Queen Visenya and King Aegon were oft apart in those years. When he was not on his royal progress, Aegon would return to Kings Landing and the Aegonfort, whilst Visenya and her son remained on Dragonstone. For this reason lords and commons alike began to refer to Maegor as the Prince of Dragonstone.
The Sons of the Dragon
Även efter att prins Aegon föddes till Aenys behöll Maegor titeln PoDS. När Maegor blev utplånad, gav Aenys bara titeln på sin arving.
Aenys seemed content to let the matter lie with Maegor's exile, but the High Septon was still not satisfied. Not even the appointment of the reputed miracle-worker, Septon Murmison, as Aenys's new Hand could wholly repair the breach with the Faith. And in 41 AC, Aenys made matters worse when he chose to wed his eldest daughter, Rhaena, to his son and heir, Aegon, whom he named Prince of Dragonstone in Maegor's place.
TWOIAF-Targaryen Kings: Aenys I
Andra än dem behöll monarker som Aerys I och Aegon V aldrig den här titeln, men deras följd berodde på oförutsedda omständigheter, så låt oss ignorera det. Och naturligtvis har vi också prins Daeron (Maekars arving) som föredrog att vara stylad som Prince of Summerhall, i stället för Prince of Dragonstone eftersom han hatade platsen och kallade den "en dyster bostad".
Att Joffrey inte höll Dragonstone störde inte adelsmännen. Även Robb medgav att Joffrey och Tommen fortfarande var de rättfärdiga arvingarna till tronen, även när norden och kronan var inblandade i krig.
"You cannot mean to hold to Joffrey, my lord," Galbart Glover said. "He put your father to death."
"That makes him evil," Robb replied. "I do not know that it makes Renly king. Joffrey is still Robert's eldest trueborn son, so the throne is rightfully his by all the laws of the realm. Were he to die, and I mean to see that he does, he has a younger brother. Tommen is next in line after Joffrey."
AGOT-Catelyn XI
Förutom att Robert hade reservationer över Joffreys arv, som han uttryckte för Ned, och hävdade att Ned inte visste pojken som Robert gjorde och det enda som hindrade honom från att abdikera var tanken på Joffrey på tronen med Cersei som viskade i hans öra.
"Let me tell you a secret, Ned. More than once, I have dreamed of giving up the crown. Take ship for the Free Cities with my horse and my hammer, spend my time warring and whoring, that's what I was made for. The sellsword king, how the singers would love me. You know what stops me? The thought of Joffrey on the throne, with Cersei standing behind him whispering in his ear. My son. How could I have made a son like that, Ned?"
"He's only a boy," Ned said awkwardly. He had small liking for Prince Joffrey, but he could hear the pain in Robert's voice. "Have you forgotten how wild you were at his age?"
"It would not trouble me if the boy was wild, Ned. You don't know him as I do." He sighed and shook his head.
AGOT-Eddard VIII
Dock var Dragonstone betydelse, dock symboliskt, upphört att existera när Robert förklarade Rhaegar bröstkorgen i Ruby Ford.
Så TLDR berättade Robert förmodligen inte titeln från sin bror eftersom: