Är Quentyn Martell solen som stiger i väster och sätter i öster?

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The travel of Quentyn Martell to meet Daenerys Targaryen with the objective of setting up an alliance and, maybe, establishing it by marriage. Sadly, his journey is suddenly stopped when one of Daenerys' dragons burns him to ashes.

Efter att ha läst boken kände jag mig ganska konstig att Martin hade tilldelat så många boksidor till en berättelse, uppenbarligen utan verklig inverkan på den stora bilden.

Men när jag talat om det nyligen med min flickvän (som är ganska visionär måste jag säga), uppgav hon att anledningen är att Quentyns berättelse är en berättande båge som uppfyller en av Mirri Maz Durs profetia om de framtida barnen i Daenerys , den del som säger "När solen stiger i väst och sätter i öst".

Jag var ganska chockad vid uppenbarelsen, för min förståelse passar den ganska bra på profetian och förklarar varför så många sidor ska börja och avsluta en obevakad historia båge, men jag undrar om det finns någon annan ledtråd eller punkt i romaner som kan bekräfta denna teori.

    
uppsättning Bardo 31.08.2017 10:38

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Enligt Fan-teorin refererar din flickvän till, ja, Quentyn är solen som ligger i öst.

Mirris profetia var:

"When will he [Drogo] be as he was?" Dany demanded. "When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur, "When the seas go dry and the mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."
AGOT - Daenerys IX

Så att Drogo ska återvända:

  • Solen måste stiga i väst och sätta i öst.
  • Hav måste torka
  • Berg måste blåsa i vinden
  • Daenerys måste föda ett levande barn
  • Fanteori är att profetian har blivit uppfylld av följande skäl.

    När solen går upp i väst och sätter i öst

    Quentyn Martell tillhör House Martell, vars sigil är Sun pierced av ett spjut. Han föddes i Dorne, Westeros och dog i Meereen, Essos. Så solen steg i väst och satt i öst.

    Från Citadel :

    Consider that Quentyn Martell -- "the Sun's son", referring to the Martell sun -- journeyed from the west to the east, where he died

    När haven går torr

    Havet som gick torrt var Dothrakisjön. Daenerys noterade att gräset i Dothrakisjön hade gått torrt.

    Från Citadel :

    In Daenerys's last chapter she notes that the Dothraki sea is going dry and the grasses are dying

    Och även:

    Dany set off through the tall grass at a brisk pace. The earth felt warm between her toes. The grass was as tall as she was. It never seemed so high when I was mounted on my silver, riding beside my sun-and-stars at the head of his khalasar. As she walked, she tapped her thigh with the pitmaster's whip. That, and the rags on her back, were all she had taken from Meereen.

    Though she walked through a green kingdom, it was not the deep rich green of summer. Even here autumn made its presence felt, and winter would not be far behind. The grass was paler than she remembered, a wan and sickly green on the verge of going yellow. After that would come brown. The grass was dying.
    ADWD - Daenerys X

    Och:

    The next morning she woke stiff and sore and aching, with ants crawling on her arms and legs and face. When she realized what they were, she kicked aside the stalks of dry brown grass that had served as her bed and blanket and struggled to her feet.
    ADWD - Daenerys X

    Och bergen blåser i vinden som löv

    Fjällen som blåste som löv är den knepiga delen.

    Från Citadel :

    Two of the pyramids of Meereen collapse in smoke and ash following Viserion and Rhaegel rampaging through the city and that she menstruates

    Men från en fanteori :

    Now the most confusing aspect of the prophesy (my theory for which is kinda tinfoily so bear with me). ‘The mountains blow in the wind like leaves’ does not refer to the destruction of Meeren or any form of volcanic eruption but to Ser Robert Strong. It is widely believed that Ser Robert Strong is Gregor Clegane (aka the mountain)’s reanimated corpse. It is however noted that Gregor's head was shipped to Dorne. This decapitation would mean that the one “mountain” has now become two “mountains”.

    Jag skulle vilja tillägga att eftersom bergets kropp ligger i kungens landning och hans huvud är i Dorne, kan man säga att de två bergen har blåsat som löv till Dorne. Citadel pekar dock på förstörelsen av pyramiderna.

    En alternativ vy är den som föreslogs av Joao Duarte i kommentarerna, om någon vägg är sänktes, det kan också vara något liknande berg som blåser i vinden som löv.

    OMG OM DANY KAN HA BABYAR, DROGO KOMMER ATT RETURNA?

    Vi måste notera vad Citadel säger :

    This might be a real prophecy, or it may simply be a sort of curse to strike terror and despair into Daenerys's heart.

    Och även:

    This of course leaves us the need for a living child, and then the "return" of Drogo... though our speculation is that if she has a child, it will be a son that she names Drogo, thereby fulfilling Mirri's claim.

    Det finns också spekulation om att Daenerys blöder (Menstruate) för första gången i månader när hon går förlorad i Dothrakisjön, vilket innebär att hon kanske har misslyckat ett barn.

    Just past midday she came upon a bush growing by the stream, its twisted limbs covered with hard green berries. Dany squinted at them suspiciously, then plucked one from a branch and nibbled at it. Its flesh was tart and chewy, with a bitter aftertaste that seemed familiar to her. "In the khalasar, they used berries like these to flavor roasts," she decided. Saying it aloud made her more certain of it. Her belly rumbled, and Dany found herself picking berries with both hands and tossing them into her mouth.
    ADWD - Daenerys X

    Och:

    When she woke, gasping, her thighs were slick with blood.

    For a moment she did not realize what it was. The world had just begun to lighten, and the tall grass rustled softly in the wind. No, please, let me sleep some more. I'm so tired. She tried to burrow back beneath the pile of grass she had torn up when she went to sleep. Some of the stalks felt wet. Had it rained again? She sat up, afraid that she had soiled herself as she slept. When she brought her fingers to her face, she could smell the blood on them. Am I dying? Then she saw the pale crescent moon, floating high above the grass, and it came to her that this was no more than her moon blood.
    ADWD - Daenerys X

    och

    She rubbed her fingers through the dirt, and grabbed a handful of grass to wipe between her legs. The dragon does not weep. She was bleeding, but it was only woman's blood. The moon is still a crescent, though. How can that be? She tried to remember the last time she had bled. The last full moon? The one before? The one before that? No, it cannot have been so long as that. "I am the blood of the dragon," she told the grass, aloud.
    ADWD - Daenerys X

    Hon bar inte ett levande barn, hon visade sig misslyckad. Men det visar att hennes livmoder kan snabba .

        
    svaret ges 31.08.2017 11:02