How arbetar reinkarnation i Wheel of Time-serien?

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Kan en person bli återfödd med ett annat kön, talanger, art och nationalitet?

Till exempel kan en manlig Aes Sedai från Manetheren återfödas som en kvinnlig ogier i Seanchan Empire?

    
uppsättning witchy 12.12.2016 16:53

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Reinkarnation av korsarter kan förekomma:

INTERVIEW: Dec 9th, 2002 Wotmania and Dragonmount Q&A
How does the idea of souls apply to constructs such as Nym and Trollocs? Could either of them be reborn?

ROBERT JORDAN: To whoever put this one forward, this is one of the best questions I've ever gotten! Nym and Trollocs both have souls, and either could be reborn, but since Nym were a pure construct (i.e. each of them was individually made, like hand-crafting) a Nym would not be reborn as a Nym. You might say that a Nym's soul was borrowed temporarily from the supply of souls awaiting rebirth. A Trolloc, however, bears a twisted, or corrupted soul, and would be reborn as a Trolloc. Though frankly, a Trolloc's soul is such a pitiful thing, it hardly seems worth calling a soul.

Du kan nästan relatera detta till The Dark One som stjäl själarna av sina utvalda och sätta dem i nya kroppar, även de med olika könen.

Förmåga kan överföras med själen, men endast om den förmågan faktiskt existerar i åldern, återföds personen i:

INTERVIEW: Jan 25th, 2005 TOR Questions of the Week Part II (Verbatim)
WEEK 13 QUESTION
If a wolfbrother is reborn in another Age, will he be a wolfbrother again? In other words, is being a wolfbrother a trait related to the soul? Can women be wolfbrothers?

ROBERT JORDAN: Women certainly can be wolfbrothers, though the term would be wolfsisters. A wolfbrother or wolfsister reborn in another age would only be a wolfbrother or wolfsister again if that were possible in that Age. The ability to speak with wolves doesn't exist in every Age. In the "current" Age, it is a fairly new thing, appearing not too long ago. There are tales of it, sometimes just vague stories of people who supposedly "can talk to animals," without necessarily mentioning wolves, but remember that Elyas's ability was taken, at least by some Aes Sedai, as a sign that he was linked to the Shadow.

Det har gjorts några gissningar av Brandon Sanderson som talanger på samma sätt som Wolfpeople.

Vad gäller användningen av den ena kraften:

RJ (Sep '05): I don't think I have said if you are born with the spark you would have the have the spark again. I have said if you were born with the ability to channel, to learn or with the spark, you will, when your soul is born again, you will have the ability again, whether with the spark or without. And neither burning out or stilling affects that except in this lifetime, your current lifetime.

Men också:

RJ (Oct '05): For Papazen, while I have spoken of souls being born with the ability to channel in response to questions, I think of it as being genetic also. In the Age of Legends, between 2 and 3% of people had some ability, following a bell curve distribution in strength. For over 3000 years, though, Aes Sedai have been removing men who actually learned to channel from the gene pool. They have been very efficient at this. As a result, the "present day" sees about 1% of the population who can learn to channel, with a much, much smaller percentage of that being born with the spark.

Som indikerar att själen kunde bevara en fysisk kropp som inte tillåter fullständig användning av själens förmågor.

Att vara ta'verin är inte länkad till själen:

RJ (Jul '02): You might say that ta’veren-ness ebbs and flows. For one thing, remember that even for someone like Rand, the effects are really occasional, not continuous. Even when he is causing dozens of coincidences in a particular place, many more events pass off quite normally. For another thing, no one is born ta’veren. Rand, Mat, and Perrin only became ta’veren just before Moiraine appeared. You become ta’veren according to the needs of the Wheel. Like the Heroes linked to the Wheel, who are spun out as needed to try to keep the weaving of the Pattern straight, a man or woman becomes ta’veren because the Wheel has “decided” to use them as an influence on the Pattern. And, no, the Wheel isn’t sentient. Think more of a fuzzy logic device that uses feedback to correct what it is doing in order to do it in the most efficient way.

Detta bekräftas också i den slutliga boken

When the boys lose their ta'veren status

Och i RJs blogg :

The Wheel creates ta'veren at need, making someone who is already alive one. You aren't born ta'veren. Can you imagine being around a ta'veren who is teething?

Andra har nämnt kön redan, men jag ska tillägga att RJ indikerade att Mat & Birgitte är bra exempel. Om du minns är Birgitte Silverbow alltid en kvinna, och Mats minnen är alltid män ( men de var inte minnen av sina egna tidigare liv , så ta vad du vill från det), men han nämnde någon annanstans:

...so the soul of the Dragon Reborn is always going to be male, just as Birgitte's soul is always born as a woman, just as Ameresu's soul is always born as a woman. There are divisions here, and they are not interchangeable.

Något viktigt att notera är att RJs svar ibland ändras. Det finns inkonsekvenser mellan hur birefire påverkar själen, till exempel. Ursprungligen slutade balefire din reinkarnationscykel, som vi förstod det. Men senare uttalar från Jordan att det istället förhindrar att Shai'tan överför själen till en ny kropp, och den måste återfödas genom hjulet istället. Det finns också den kommentaren om Mat ovan. Så det finns fortfarande utrymme för personlig tolkning i denna kosmologi.

Sanderson tog till och med en gång i en intervju:

BRANDON SANDERSON: Here's the thing. There are three million+ words of notes, and RJ changed his mind about a lot of things as he wrote, explored, and made decisions. (He talked about this being his process. He saw the Wheel of Time as an organic thing.) So any time I speak on an issue like this, there's the chance that Maria (his assistant) will come to me and say "Actually, Brandon, he changed his mind on that. Look here for the revision." Half the time, it's something he mentioned in passing to her, Harriet, or Alan and isn't even written down.

    
svaret ges 13.12.2016 06:03
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I Time of Wheel är kön i själen. Brigitte och de andra Hjältarna är alltid återfödda med samma kön som tidigare. Halima / Aran'gar är ett annat kön än tidigare när han var Balthamel, men hans / hennes själ som Halima / Aran'gar är fortfarande manlig. Ta detta citat som förklarar det:

All of her [Halima's] mannerisms had changed since she became a woman, but not the core of what had been placed into that female body. Demandred hardly scorned fleshy pleasures, but one day her cravings would be the death of her. As they already had been once.

(Demandred on Halima, Winter's Heart Chapter 13)

Och ett annat citat, från Halimas POV om Graendal (Knife of Dreams Chapter 3):

She had always fancied Graendal. She no longer really remembered having been a man. In her memories, she wore the body she did now, which did make for a few oddities, yet that body's influence had not changed everything. Her appetites had not altered, only broadened.

Vad gäller de andra saker som du nämnde kan jag inte hitta uttryckliga referenser till detta i böckerna, men vi kan spekulera; det är förmodligen detsamma. Den Mörka, när han regenererar människor, tar sin själ - inklusive minnen, könsidentitet, intressen, känslor osv. - och fyller den i en ny kropp.

Som sagt, här är något som RJ sa i en intervju :

QUESTION

The question is, with Rand and Lews Therin, do they have one soul or two souls in the body?

ROBERT JORDAN

They have one soul with two personalities. The reincarnation of souls does not mean reincarnation of personalities. The personality develops with each reincarnation of the soul. This is the cosmology that I have cobbled together.

Det verkar vara om bara Lews Therin och Hornets hjältar. Med andra ord verkar det som jag sa uppe bara vara sant om de regenererade artificiellt, dvs av Dark One. Andra regenereringar, som gjordes av mönstret, är olika, baserat på vad RJ sa.

    
svaret ges 12.12.2016 20:40
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Eftersom kön tydligen är bunden till själen, skulle min gissning vara att kvinnor alltid är kvinnor, och män är alltid män, så jag skulle tro att de också skulle gälla för människan / Ogier, särskilt eftersom Ogier faktiskt är utlänningar . Ta Aran'gar (Halima) till exempel ... ursprungligen en man, men reinkarneras som en kvinna. Hon chanels sagtin men betyder att hon har en manlig själ. Det här är inte det enda fallet eftersom hon bara en kvinna sett kanalisering sagtin med undantag för Semirhage, och det enda sättet hon kunde göra det var genom Rand när han hade på sig a " dammen

    
svaret ges 12.12.2016 19:09