Meaning av det bibliska citatet i slutet av Raging Bull?

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Filmen Raging Bull stängs med ett bibliskt citat från Johannes evangelium. Vad är meningen med citatet, och hur hänför det sig till filmens plot?

"So, for the second time, [the Pharisees]
summoned the man who had been blind and said:

'Speak the truth before God.
We know this fellow is a sinner.'

'Whether or not he is a sinner, I do not know.'
the man replied.

'All I know is this:
once I was blind and now I can see.'

        John IX. 24-26
        the New English Bible"
    
uppsättning jrdioko 20.12.2011 00:51

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Citatet berättar om hur Jake LaMotta i slutet av filmen har hittat sin egen fred; och som en hyllning till Martin Scorsese filmlärare, Haig P. Manoogian.

Filmsite : s översyn av Raging Bull säger:

The final title commemorates Jake's "once I was blind and now I can see" salvation and new understanding:

Final Title:
So, for the second time, [the Pharisees]
summoned the man who had been blind and said:
"Speak the truth before God.
We know this fellow is a sinner."
"Whether or not he is a sinner, I do not know,"
the man replied.
"All I know is this:
once I was blind and now I can see."
John IX. 24-26
the New English Bible

Remembering Haig P. Manoogian, teacher.
May 23, 1916 - May 26, 1980.
With Love and resolution, Marty.

Remembering Haig P. Manoogian, teacher. May 23, 1916 - May 26, 1980. With Love and resolution, Marty.

[Director Martin Scorsese's dedication to his NYU film teacher.]

Filmreferens säger:

Martin Scorsese's telling of the story of Jake La Motta has given rise to a number of different, often conflicting, readings. For Scorsese himself, La Motta's trajectory from promising boxer to middleweight champion of the world to night-club performer is the story of "a guy attaining something and losing everything, and then redeeming himself." Such a reading is clearly reinforced by the quotation from St. John's gospel preceding the final credits, which tells of a man whose sight has been restored by Christ rebuking the Pharisees: "Whether or not he is a sinner, I do not know," the man replied. "All I know is this: once I was blind and now I can see." On this level, La Motta's life becomes a kind of spiritual odyssey of the kind encountered before in the work of Schrader and Scorsese, both separately and in collaboration one with another. As Scorsese describes La Motta: "He works on an almost primitive level, almost an animal level. And therefore he must think in a different way, he must be aware of certain things spiritually that we aren't, because our minds are too cluttered with intellectual ideas, and too much emotionalism. And because he's on that animalistic level, he may be closer to pure spirit."

Det var dock inte hur skriptet ursprungligen upphörde. Från Les Keysers Martin Scorsese (Twayne Publishers: New York, 1992), sidorna 121-122:

The title cards with which Scorsese chooses to end Raging Bull suggest that he did not feel equivocal about La Motta's salvation. The original script ended with images of Jake shadowboxing, a description of Jake as "still alive, still a condender, a forty-two year old man fighting for a shot," and a citation from St. John's Gospel, chapter 3, beginning with verse 3: "Verily, verily I saw unto thee except a man be born again, he cannot enter into the kingdom of heaven." By the time Raging Bull was completed, Scorsese decided to change the citation to later lines in St. John's Gospel, chapter 9, beginning with verse 24: "So, for the second time, the Pharisees summoned the man who had been blind and said: 'Speak the truth before God, We know this fellow is a sinner.' Whether or not he is a sinner, I do not know,' the man replied. 'All I know is this: once I was blind and now I can see'."

Scorsese was totally responsible for the new text. His collaborator [screenwriter] Paul Schrader maintains that it does not fit the film: "I had no idea it was going to be there, and when I saw it I was absolutely baffled. I don't think it's true of La Motta either in real life or in the movie; I think he's the same dumb lug at the end as at the beginning, and I think Marty is just imposing salvation on his subject by fiat. I've never really got from him a terribly credible reason for why he did it; he just seemed to feel that it was right" (Schrader 1990, 133).

In this new "now I can see" citation, Scorsese was commemorating Jakes' new understanding and peace, but as his title card went on to note, he was also "Remembering Haig P. Manoogian, teacher, May 23, 1916-May 26, 1980, with love and resolution, Marty." Those who knew Manoogian would recall that he challenged all his New York University students to see and linked the idea of seeing with the essence of art and religion. As a headnote, for example, to his text The Filmmaker's Art, Scorsese's mentor had cited the Victorian critic John Ruskin: "The greatest thing a human soul ever does in this world is to see something, and tell what it saw in a plan way. Hundreds of people can talk for one who can think but thousands can think for one who can see. To see clearly is poetry, prophecy, and religion, all in one" (Manoogian, vii). Scorsese found poetry, prophecy, and religion in La Motta's life and struggled in Raging Bull to make audiences share his vision.

    
svaret ges 09.06.2012 12:29
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Detta citat var en hänvisning till Martin Scorsese filmprofessor, Haig Manoogian, till vilken filmen var tillägnad. Mannen dog strax innan filmen släpptes. Scorsese krediter Manoogian med att hjälpa honom "att se",

    
svaret ges 20.12.2011 16:58
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Jag tror att citatet är tänkt att påminna oss om att människor inte ska bli förkrossade för att anklaga andra för synden och i stället fira glädje och mirakel i våra liv. Fariséerna vill att den tidigare blinda mannen ska gå med i att anklaga syndens karl, men den tidigare blinda mannen berättar i princip att han inte bryr sig om mannen är en syndare eller inte. Han är istället tacksam att hans syn har återställts mirakulöst, och det är det han spenderar sin tid att tänka på och fira.

Därför tror jag inte, i citatet om "Raging Bull", att citatet är avsett att förmedla att Jake har lärt sig någonting eller utvecklats till någon form av bibelsk hjälte. Istället påminner citatet om att oavsett misstag eller synder som Jake har begått i sitt liv och i filmen finns det säkert många av dem - det är inte vårt jobb som medmänniskor att döma honom eller att anklaga honom för att vara en dålig man, en syndare. I stället bör vi fokusera på de positiva aspekterna av våra liv - och Jakes liv - och fira den glädje vi ser. Även om Jake har haft sina motgångar, är han en överlevande, han fortsätter att göra sin väg i livet, och på något sätt är det något att fira.

Kanske en annan anledning till att citatet resonerar med scorese är att linjen "en gång jag var blind och nu kan jag se", kan ha speciell betydelse för en man vars huvudsakliga strävan i livet skapar konst genom film - ett visuellt medium som drar på vad man ser ". Att han ägnar sig till detta citat till Manoogian, hans tidigare filmstudent i NYU, innebär att manoogian spelat en nyckelroll för att hjälpa scorcese att utveckla de färdigheter han har använt som regissör, dvs. han har hjälpt scorcese att "se". Så citatet fungerar på två nivåer: som en kommentar om vad vi just har sett av Jakes liv och som scorcese minns av en lärare som har inspirerat honom.

    
svaret ges 30.01.2017 15:58