Ja, i Greyhawk-kampanjen okänd för Blackmoor
Martins varelser skulle ha spelats i Greyhawk för att komma in i OD & D bok 3. Det finns bevis för att Eracs kusin (Ernie Gygax PC) äventyrades i Mars / Barsoom när Gary Gygax och Rob Kuntz DMing Greyhawk-kampanjen. Mike Mornard bekräftade detta . (Han spelade i de tidiga Lake Geneva-spelen och i Blackmoor).I never went to Barsoom, but Ernie did, and Rob wanted to. There were some odd bits of science fiction (more "Sword And Planet," actually) in Greyhawk but it was a long time ago. (posted on those boards as gronanofsimmerya).
Analys från skapande material / anteckningar / kommentarer
Det allmänna svaret är "ja" baserat på analys av en artikel från Dragon Magazine, Issue Number 7, sidan 7. För de monster som ska publiceras i bok 3 av OD & D (och för den delen i Greyhawk kompletterar en några månader senare) skulle de ha spelats av de ursprungliga spelprovgivarna i Greyhawk-kampanjen.
Gary Gygax beskriver kortspelningen innan spelböckerna publicerades första gången i artikeln: På Dungeons and Dragons (Origins of the Game) Att en tvist mellan DA och GG senare uppstod och avgjordes i domstol är inte ämnet för detta svar. .
{snip} I asked Dave to please send me his rules additions, for I thought a whole new system should be developed. A few weeks after his visit I received 18 or so handwritten pages of rules and notes pertaining to his campaign, and I immediately began work on a brand new manuscript. “Greyhawk” campaign started —the first D&D campaign!
About three weeks later, I had some 100 typewritten pages, and we began serious play-testing in Lake Geneva, while copies were sent to the Twin Cities and to several other groups for comment.
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The first D&D (as opposed to {Arneson's} variant CHAINMAIL) dungeon adventurers were: Ernie Gygax, Don Kaye, Rob Kuntz and Terry Kuntz. They were soon joined by *Don Arndt, Brian Blume, Tom Champeny, Bill Corey, Bob Dale, Mary Dale, Chip Mornard, Mike Mornard, and Tim Wilson*. All of these gamers — as well as the other play-testers — contributed to the final form of the game. {snip} Spells were expanded. The list of monsters was broadened again, and a complete listing of magical items and treasures was given.
Eftersom Gary Gygax och Brian Blume publicerade ett TSR-spel sommaren 1974 , Warriors of Mars (snart opublicerad efter en upphörande och avvisande order kom från Burroughs-fastigheten) är lutningen att spela Burroughs Mars-äventyr inte bara en rimlig uppskattning att göra, det måste ha ägt rum i vissa för det material för att komma in i "sista" listan över monster och möten i bok 3.
Garys son Ernie tog en av hans karaktärer (Eracs kusin) till Mars / Barsoom.
En analys av Greyhawk-kampanjutvecklingen citerar Mars som spelbar :
... Greyhawk (1972)[/b] The second campaign ever, after Blackmoor, ... An even more macrocosmic view was that Oerth is a fantasy version of Earth, with Greyhawk as a fantasy version of Chicago and Dyvers as Milwaukee. A chute in Castle Greyhawk could take you to the other side of the world to a fantasy China; there were also various ways to get to Mars (Burroughs’s Barsoom). (See Falconer's post)
Från Falconers andra inlägg i samma tråd
May 21, 2010 at 6:22am waysoftheearth said: and also about any forays to Borsoom that you recall... {Falconer} Erac’s Cousin adventured there. (After the character Erac died, Ernie made a new character who was Erac’s Cousin and didn’t want to reveal his name to avoid anyone having that power over him.) He was a Magic-User, but had to switch to Fighter because magic didn’t work on Mars. I don’t know any details about his adventures there.
Detta bekräftades av Ernie Gygax. (Garys son).
(poster Rhuvein, same thread as above) Mar 27, 2011 at 10:41pm
Ernie confirmed this whilst a bunch of us were hanging out gaming and drinking beer at his house last Thursday evening ...
Anteckningarna till Eracs kusin var uppe till auktion ett tag tillbaka ; Försäljningsanteckningarna innehåller dessa kommentarer (bland annat):
These note sheets are for Ernie's infamous character "Erac's Cousin", a later Greyhawk character, from 1975 to 1976, who continued to adventure in the combined, expanded version of Castle Greyhawk with Gary Gygax and Rob Kuntz as his Dungeon Masters! {snip} It is all there, how he got to be a double-classed fighter/magic-user by having to fight on Mars, the experience points, when his character was drained by a wight ... (Copyright © 1994-2010, [Paul J. Stormberg]. All rights reserved.)
Som med mycket i de tre första böckerna var det inte så mycket detaljer som vi nu tycker om. Carniverous Apes listades på sidan 64 av Greyhawk som extra material till Monsters and Treasures (bok 2). Medan de inte hade skurat för att få de regler som publicerades 1973/1974, hade andra apor. De hade ingen statistik. Vita apor visade sig på sidorna 10, 15 och 19 i Underjorden och Vildmarks äventyr , och vanliga apor på sidan 19, men ingen statistik gavs.
These rules are strictly fantasy. Those wargamers who lack imagination, those who don't care for Burroughs' Martian adventures where John Carter is groping through black pits, who feel no thrill upon reading Howard's Conan saga, who do not enjoy the de Camp & Pratt fantasies or Fritz Leiber's Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser pitting their swords against evil sorceries will not be likely to find DUNGEONS and DRAGONS to their taste. (OD&D, Men and Magic, page 3)