Vad är det för Vanyar?

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I Silmarillion lär vi oss mycket om elven och deras ledares ursprung. Det finns mycket information om folket i Teleri och de viktigaste tomterna är vävda runt Noldor öde, så de är allestädes närvarande. Men av Vanyar lär vi oss nästan ingenting, förutom att Ingwë är deras herre, att de är de som Manwë älskar mest, att de är de högsta elvarna, att de bor vid foten av Taniquetil och att de gick till kriget av vrede med värd Valar. Och också att Galadriels mor var av Vanyar.

Min fråga är: finns det något i kanon som ger mer information om dem, som vissa gärningar eller deras huvudintressen och talanger, och om så är fallet, vilka huvudlinjer är de här detaljerna?

    
uppsättning Joel 11.05.2015 15:58

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Jag har skannat Silmarillion , Oavslutade Tales och alla tolv volymer Middle Earths historia . Här är vad jag fick reda på.

Vad vet vi?

Inte ett ton, men inte heller ingenting:

  • De brukade ha gyllene hår, som rapporterats av "Index of Names" i The Silmarillion :

    Vanyar The first host of the Eldar on the westward journey from Cuiviénen, led by Ingwë. The name (singular Vanya) means 'the Fair', referring to the golden hair of the Vanya

  • De bor i Valinor, snarare i Elvas städer Aman:

    As the ages passed the Vanyar grew to love the land of the Valar and the full light of the Trees, and they forsook the city of Tirion upon Túna, and dwelt thereafter upon the mountain of Manwë, or about the plains and woods of Valinor, and became sundered from the Noldor. [...] Ingwë was ever held the High King of all the Elves. He abode thereafter at the feet of Manwë upon Taniquetil.

    The Silmarillion III Quenta Silmarillion Chapter 5: "Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalië"

  • De tyckte verkligen om Melkor:

    Now in his heart Melkor most hated the Eldar, both because they were fair and joyful and because in them he saw the reason for the arising of the Valar, and his own downfall. Therefore all the more did he feign love for them and seek their friendship, and he offered them the service of his lore and labour in any great deed that they would do. The Vanyar indeed held him in suspicion, for they dwelt in the light of the Trees and were content;

    The Silmarillion III Quenta Silmarillion Chapter 6: "Of Fëanor and the Unchaining of Melkor"

  • En av Vanyar komponerade Aldudénië , berättelsen om förstörelsen av Valinors två träd, den sorgligaste berättelsen i Elvis historia:

    So the great darkness fell upon Valinor. Of the deeds of that day much is told in the Aldudénië, that Elemmírë of the Vanyar made and is known to all the Eldar. Yet no song or tale could contain all the grief and terror that then befell.

    The Silmarillion III Quenta Silmarillion Chapter 8: "Of the Darkening of Valinor"

  • En annan av dem, Indis, blev Finwes andra fru och fingolfin och finarfin, som senare var Noldorens högkungar 1, 2

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    Finwë was King of the Noldor. The sons of Finwë were Fëanor, and Fingolfin, and Finarfin; but the mother of Fëanor was Míriel Serindë, whereas the mother of Fingolfin and Finarfin was Indis of the Vanyar.

    The Silmarillion III Quenta Silmarillion Chapter 5: "Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalië"

  • Endast en känd fullblodig Vanyar åtföljde Noldor från Aman; det här var Elenwë, fru till Turgon (Fingolfins andra son), och hon dog över Helcaraxë:

    Then Fingolfin seeing that Fëanor had left him to perish in Araman or return in shame to Valinor was filled with bitterness; but he desired now as never before to come by some way to Middle-earth, and meet Fëanor again. And he and his host wandered long in misery, but their valour and endurance grew with hardship; for they were a mighty people, the elder children undying of Eru Ilúvatar, but new-come from the Blessed Realm, and not yet weary with the weariness of Earth. The fire of their hearts was young, and led by Fingolfin and his sons, and by Finrod and Galadriel, they dared to pass into the bitterest North; and finding no other way they endured at last the terror of the Helcaraxë and the cruel hills of ice. Few of the deeds of the Noldor thereafter surpassed that desperate crossing in hardihood or woe. There Elenwë the wife of Turgon was lost, and many others perished also

    The Silmarillion III Quenta Silmarillion Chapter 9: "Of the Flight of the Noldor"

    Elenwës Vanyar-arv identifieras i Middle Earths historia :

    'Turgon...had no heir; for Elenwë his wife perished in the crossing of the Helcaraxë': here A [an earlier draft] has 'Turgon...had no heir; for his wife, Alairë was of the Vanyar and would not forsake Valinor' [...] The substitution of Elenwë in The Silmarillion was based on the Elvish genealogies of 1959 (see pp. 229, 350), where Anairë (defined as a Vanya who 'remained in Túna') was later corrected to 'Elenwë who perished in the ice'; on the same table at the same time Anairë was entered as the wife of Fingolfin, with the note that she 'remained in Aman'.

    History of Middle-earth XI The War of the Jewels Part Three. The Wanderings of Húrin and Other Writings not forming part of the Quenta Silmarillion: III "Maeglin" Section 12

  • De kallade själva Minyar; "Vanyar" är ett namn som ges av Noldor:

    This name was probably given to the First Clan by the Noldor. They accepted it, but continued to call themselves most often by their own numerical name Minyar (since the whole of this clan had joined the Eldar and reached Aman).

    *History of Middle-earth" XI The War of the Jewels "Part 4. Quendi and Eldar" Part C: The Clan-names "Vanyar"

  • De tänker på sig själva som elvenes ledare:

    [T]he Vanyar were regarded, and regarded themselves, as the leaders and principal kindred of the Eldar, as they were the eldest; and they called themselves the Ingwer [inga means "top" in Quenya] - in fact their king's proper title was Ingwë Ingweron 'chief of the chieftains'.

    *History of Middle-earth" XII The Peoples of Middle-earth Chapter 11: "The Shibboleth of Fëanor"

1 Jo, Fingolfin blir högkung. Finarfin stannade i Aman, men hans sonson Gil-galad blev något mindre obskyr än genomsnittet Elf.

2 Även Indis var egentligen Galadriels grand mor; Galadriel är dotter till Finarfin, inte av Finwë:

The sons of Finarfin were Finrod the faithful (who was afterwards named Felagund, Lord of Caves), Orodreth, Angrod, and Aegnor; these four were as close in friendship with the sons of Fingolfin as though they were all brothers. A sister they had, Galadriel, most beautiful of all the house of Finwë; her hair was lit with gold as though it had caught in a mesh the radiance of Laurelin.

The Silmarillion III Quenta Silmarillion Chapter 5: "Of Eldamar and the Princes of the Eldalië"

    
svaret ges 11.05.2015 17:54