Var det något speciellt med Ivans fågel?

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I början av Iron Man 2 ser vi Ivan Vanko tittar på Tony Stark på TV, och det finns en fågel i rummet med Ivan.

Senare i filmen gör Ivan Vanko och Justin Hammer en överenskommelse under förutsättning att Hammer hämtar Ivan fågel från Ryssland.

Var det något speciellt med denna fågel, förutom att det var Ivans husdjur?

Varför skulle det ha varit så svårt för Hammer att få fågeln? Kunde han inte ha just skickat någon till Ivan? Jag menar, han gick igenom krångel med att ge lite slags fågel, så ..

    
uppsättning Charles 11.04.2018 17:18

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Was there anything special about this bird, other than it being Ivan's pet?

Nej ...

Ivan är uppenbarligen knuten till original -fågeln, men även när Hammer får honom till en uppenbar -utbyte verkar Ivan halvhaltigt. På intet sätt stannar han (uppenbarligen) för Hammer *

Tyvärr har Ivan Vanko varit i en sibirisk gulag i många år ... det är osannolikt att fågeln ens lever.

Justin: Hey, hey, hey. Special delivery. Candygram. [Ivan climbs down from where he was working] I brought you something. Oh yeah. [Removes cloth] We got you the bird, pal.

Ivan: This is not my bird.

Justin: What do you mean? That’s the bird. This is the bird. Yeah, pulled a lot of strings to get this bird. This is a great bird.

Jack: It’s a beautiful bird.

Justin: We got this bird all the way from Russia.

Ivan: Hey, man, this is not my bird.

Justin: Well, listen, even if it’s not the bird, I mean, this is a gorgeous bird.

När Hammer tar fågeln bort, hämtar Ivan bara ganska mycket ...

Justin: Hey, there he is. It’s the bird man. Now you like the bird. Is that right? Is that your bird? I’m confused. You said it wasn’t, but now it looks like you’re the best of pals. You love that bird, don’t you? You know what? Take the bird.

Ivan: [As man grabs bird] Hey!

* Det är naturligtvis ganska uppenbart att Ivan var alltid planerar att förråda Hammer som bara använde honom för sina egna ändamål.

I den mån, oavsett den ursprungliga fågelns kärlek, var det obetydligt i ljuset av hans önskan att hämnas på Stark familjen.

    
svaret ges 11.04.2018 18:00
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Any idea of why Ivan cared about the bird so much? I was wondering/thinking maybe it had to do with his father or sth..

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Actually, the bird was Mickey Rourke's idea. It wasn't in any of the drafts of the script, but Rourke wanted something to establish that Ivan was not a terrible guy; he just had some serious revenge issues. He wanted to show that he was able to form an emotional bond (apparently the bond with his father in that opening scene just wasn't strong enough for him).

This is a round about way of saying that, when Ivan gets the second bird, he's upset that Hammer didn't actually get his bird from Russia. This does not mean that he can't bond with the new bird. My thought is that he makes the most of it, and makes friends with the bird they've brought. It isn't the bird's fault, so why take it out on the bird? Ivan's emotional side (that Rourke tries so hard to establish) dictates that he also likes this bird, too.

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When he gets to Hammer and asks for his bird, he is testing Hammer to see how far he can push him, knowing already what he wants to do… Hammer needed him, so he agreed to “the bird”, which became a bird - much the same as suits became drones… Hammer thought he was being clever but Ivan had already sussed him and was 3 steps ahead.

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According to the actor, the bird wasn't the only aspect of his character he came up with and pushed for in the film.
"I bounced these ideas off [Jon] Favreau. He had to fight for me to be okay with the teeth and tattoos and the bird," said Rourke. "Everything was a little bit of a fight, but once I justified it, Favreau had to go to the powers that be."

    
svaret ges 12.04.2018 01:22